Cats and dogs are carnivores and should never be fed otherwise. Period!

This post is about the evergrowing thing about what we choose to feed our carnivorous pets, like cats and dogs. My personal view on this is pretty simple. Dogs and cats are carnivores and should not be fed otherwise. However, there are reasons why I believe that you can (or could) have a healthy “thriving” cat or dog that is fed vegan, and I shall explain why in this post.

Also, no hateful comments – please. Read all of this post and listen to what I’ve said. Read the linked posts before you make a hateful comment or something else in that nature. 

Thanks!

Let’s begin!

My whole life goal has been to get a Great Dane. This year of 2018 I’ve waited more than 20 years for one, and I shall have to wait a bit longer as well. I am also currently a vegetarian, striving towards becoming a vegan someday. A vegan who has the right to call themselves vegan, because my diet will be vegan. Does that mean that my future Great Dane will be vegan? Of course not! That would just be stupid, since dogs are carnivores. I admit, they are scavenging carnivores, but they have the dietary tracts and features of a carnivore. Dogs can survive on a so called omnivorous diet, but that does not mean it is the optimal diet for a dog, since they are carnivores by nature. They are designed to eat meat, flesh, bones and intestines. Just like us humans are herbivores. We are designed to eat plants such as fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds and grains. Animal products make us sick because we are built to eat plants and vice versa for carnivorous animals. Especially dogs and cats. Dr. Becker explains more in the video below:

Everything she says is great except for the part where she says that humans are omnivores, since that is not true, like I explained before. But I’m not the expert here, I’m just another blogger making a valid point about facts. We are not omnivores by design, although we stupidly enough consume animal products even though we are not made to eat that.

Dr. Becker in the video above say that cats and dogs are very resilient animals. The same is true for humans. We do not just die if we are suddenly fed the wrong thing. No, instead it takes years for us to develop things such as heart disease, cancer and diabetes. Same is true for cats and dogs. But I don’t want to repeat myself. This is just the facts. The links to these facts can be found in former posts and also in other links in this posts.

What I mean by that is your vegan dog or cat can as of now seem very healthy. I am not sure, though how long that will last though. And also, what I mean by a healthy dog is mainly by these standards:

  • No smell of dog or a lot less smelly fur
  • More balanced energy according to breed and age of the dog
  • Less shedding from before the diet change
  • Shiny  and/or softer fur
  • No giant dog poops and pretty much odorless poops as well
  • Less signs of aging, graying of the fur, mobility etc.
  • Shiny teeth with no plaque and no bad breath
  • Healthy weight according to breed and age

All things mentioned in the list above have been found in dogs and cats that are fed their natural diet, which should be raw meat, bones and intestines. You can also read a more thorough post here about it.  I you have a vegan dog that also share these benefits, please let me know, because I have not yet seen anybody saying that they’ve seen these health benefits so far. What I mean by that is I have read people say that the coat is shiny, but what about smelly poops? Or giant poops for that matter? If the dog is truly healthy it should mean that the poops are really tiny, odorless and break down fast if left on the ground. Just to mention a funny thing about dog shit;

I’ve read in a FB group that feed their dogs raw (aka a meat-based diet) that they have had bags in their pockets filled with dog poop for weeks and did not notice that for a long time, because the poop did not smell. Has that ever happened to a vegan dog? I’d really like to know.

I think it is also important to not look at only individual cases. Just because a thousand dogs have gone vegan does not mean that dogs should be vegan in general, since they are built like carnivores. I know some dogs will live longer on a vegan diet, but that is also true for some humans that smoke, drink and eat tons of bacon and still live to be a hundred years old. The science overall says differently for both dog and human health.

How vegan dogs can get better on the wrong foods

If you understand Swedish, you can read my post on my blog about my earlier statements regarding vegan diets for dogs. I claim there that the main reason that dogs tend to get well or a whole lot better on a vegan diet is because the previous diet was basically shit. I mean, it is so logical that commercial dry pet foods are filled with garbage! No wonder dogs and cats get sick from that?! First of all, the dry pet food is not raw and in their natural state, just like Oreos are vegan, but not a Whole Food. See the difference? I totally understand why dogs get rid of their allergies etc while being on a vegan diet, because that diet probably means that they are fed a more “clean” diet, even though it is based on the wrong kind of food for a carnivore. I personally think it’s the cleanliness of a vegan diet that gives positive results, but what if you’d feed the dog a Biologically Appropriate Raw Diet instead? I bet you’d get the same results, if not even a whole lot better results. The downside to that is all the other animals having to die for your dog to get his or her food. But that’s nature, really…

The ethical side of things and why lab grown meat will be a win-win.

Oh, yes, here comes the whole dilemma and I understand most (if not all) of it. My whole idea regarding the ethics is basically that I’m waiting for lab grown meat to be available as a replacement for the meat humans consume today. When that happens, hopefully before 2025 or something like that, then I believe that lab grown meat is the perfect food for our carnivorous pets! Don’t you? As a vegetarian, going on vegan I’d never eat lab grown meat, because it’s still meat and bad for us humans, but for pets! OMG! That’d be wonderful!

Before that happens I still believe that all creatures in our living world should be fed the optimal diet for their own species. Us humans should all be WFPB vegans for optimal health, carnivores should be fed a meat-based diet and so on. If we keep doing it like we have been for way too long now, everything is only gonna get worse in the end with even more people being ill from our top killers and the same goes for our pets. Even though I’m a vegetarian today and striving towards being a vegan, I think it’s cruel for any living thing to be deprived of their natural and optimal diet. With the vegan movement changing all that for the human health, the planet’s health and for the animals, that will all get better in the end. I just desperately hope that lab grown meat will very soon be here and replace factory farming and other means of killing animals for their flesh and bones, because then every carnivorous pet we all love could be fed a cruelty-free diet and live a whole lot better for it.

No, having pets is not vegan, because veganism starts with the human diet.

I also have a few things to say about the whole garbage idea that having pets is not vegan. What do people mean by that? Like I’ve explained in another post of mine, it is so confusing when people refers to everything as being “vegan” or not. No, I do not believe that it is “vegan” to have pets. That’s because pets and what you choose to eat every day is not the same thing. No matter if you choose to eat an omnivorous diet or a vegan one. It might be a better way to say it. Is having pets cruel? Well, yes – if you feed them the wrong kind of diet and/or if you think of the ethical aspects of the killed animals for your carnivorous pets. But having pets in themselves have absolutely nothing to do with veganism as far as I’m concerned. They’re pets, or more likely highly valuable family members. I see my cat Maja as my baby, because that’s what she is in my view and I believe she sees us as mommy and daddy.

I absolutely adore people who do the whole #adoptdontshop thing. It’s amazing! But something like that is not for me. Regarding the whole thing about breeding dogs for looks, temper etc I totally am aware about horrible breeders destroying breeds of cats and dogs continuesly for looks instead of focusing on a healthier breed.

That is why, whenever I’ll get my Great Dane I will choose an awesome breeder that does not change the breed of Great Danes for the worse. In fact, I’ve already found them. I have found a breeder (and believe it or not, I’ve known them for almost 20 years) that spends years finding the perfect Great Danes to breed. They are primarily focused on finding healthy dogs with longevity that also follows the breeding standards of the breed. Their Great Danes look like Great Danes should, and for me that is really important. I will never buy a Great Dane from a breeder that does not put the best for the breed first. That is also a huge factor regarding why I’ve waited for so long to get a Great Dane. My breeder of choice haven’t had a litter in over 3 years. They just got a new one and the puppies are now 4 weeks of age. I’ll unfortunately have to wait a bit longer until I’m ready to have a Great Dane as well, but I hope I’ll have my baby as soon as I have a better job so I can afford it.

For me, I could never choose to go vegan over getting a Great Dane. No, that is not possible. In my mind you can have the cake and eat it too. You can be vegan, and eat a WFPB diet, while you have a Great Dane by your side that eats a Raw diet based on meat and other animal products. And you can both be healthy and hopefully in the future, cruelty-free.

Below are some more videos I found on YouTube. The playlist is of a holistic vet who feeds her Great Danes vegan, and apparently they also thrive. I have also two videos from the amazing YouTube channel “Those Annoying Vegans” that explain why they are not feeding their cats a vegan diet, and also a follow-up video from the comments made on that video. You can all watch these to learn some more.

All basic points about dogs being carnivores, signs of a healthy dog and why commercial pet foods are so bad, can be found in this post.

And I repeat, please – no hateful comments! And thanks for reading this long post!

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More about vegan terminology…

After my post I wrote about vegan terminology I felt that even though I said a lot, I have even more to say about it. First of all, is it really that important to use the terminology for everything? I mean, if you’re a meat eater, you generally do not have a term for it. You just eat food and probably do not care about where it comes from, if you eat an animal like a cow or a pig or that your shampoo has been tested on animals as well. I mean – who cares, right? The same thing should also apply if you’re vegetarian in some shape or form. As long as you eat a certain vegan-ish way that should mean that everything is fine, right?

Life was certainly a lot easier back then when I knew nothing about my food. I just ate it and felt as good as I possibly could, even though I’ve been sort of sick my whole life fro fibromyalgia, IBS and the like. I did not think about the consequences that my food choice made on the planet or my health. It was just food. Today it is so different and I’m not perfect, but today I think it is really important to use words correctly in order to not mislead or confuse people. Especially since so many people still do not care about what they eat and how it affects health, animals and our planet. That is why terminology is important to me, and why the term for vegan(ism) has to change.

What I have learned now, going back since like 2012 when I first got to know a vegan personally and watched documentaries like forks over knives has really changed my life. I have learned that us humans are somewhere between herbivores and frugivores, that animal agriculture is the leading cause alone to climate change. I’ve also learned that it is possible to reverse a lot of diseases and prevent basically every single one of them as well by eating a healthy vegan diet. That is why I feel that the correct information regarding all of this needs to get out there, even though I am not yet a vegan by its terminology. Like you’ve probably read – I’m vegetarian that consumes eggs, dairy and sometimes honey. And I’m lazy and eat a lot of processed crap! But I’m striving towards being vegan someday and I hope it will be possible for me to be a vegan within 5 years or so. By the end of 2018 I at least hope I’ll have the habit of being a somewhat semi-vegan eating primarily WFPB for health reasons, but if I’m being realistic that will only work for weeks or maybe a few months at the time since I’m so lazy and have like zero energy most days. But I’m trying my best!

Anyways, on with the post. What I wanted to write about today is more about the whole thing of not being vegan enough. Like it is against the law to call yourself vegan if you do not do it for the animals. I AM SO SICK OF THAT!!! Like I mentioned in my earlier post, I base being vegan on what you eat, regardless if you eat WFPB or vegan junk food or perhaps a mix of both. YOU ARE VEGAN IF YOU EAT VEGAN FOOD!

The main reason I wanted to say something more about this whole thing that’s going on is because it feels like if you are only (and I mean only) vegan for the animals, that would mean that lab grown meat is your ultimate goal. Because then you could eat meat without worrying about the animals. Since it’s coming from real animal flesh and muscles and bones, but no animals had been killed or hurt in the process – you’d all go back to eating meat when there is a final product out there, right? Because – who cares when no animals are killed or hurt, right? Meat is vegan if no animals were hurt or killed for it, right? Even though meat is defined as an animal product? It has to be vegan if no animals were hurt or killed in the process, right? It is only vegan if you think about the animals, right? And if you are vegan for the animals you do not think about your own health, because there is no need to, right? If you are vegan, you cannot possibly also eat healthy foods as well, because then you’d be plant based and never considered being vegan, right?

I think that is such wrongness to use the word vegan for. It makes me feel like you think of cows like walking carrots with feelings. Don’t get me wrong, I have heard people say this, and regard animals as plants, when the food (or animal) itself is not being anywhere vegetarian. An animal is defined as an animal and plants are defined as plants. At least I know that much. You can combine the two and eat a somewhat omnivorous diet, but as being a vegetarian, still consuming eggs and dairy it is important to know that the animal products are still animal products. They complement the plant foods you’re eating. The egg is not a vegetarian product, nor is the dairy. By saying that, it’s totally fine to eat like an omelette if you’re vegetarian, but that does not mean you’re eating plants by just consuming the omelette. See what I mean?

People for real counts eggs as being a fruit or something, fish and chickens for beings without emotions and dairy as a magical formula that just pours out of the cows for no reason that we as humans also must consume to help save the cows. All vegetarian, of course if you’d consider yourself being one. Like, WTF?!

Ok, you might think I’m overreacting here and I wish I was, but I’ve thought about this for a while now and I’m only getting more angry over the whole thing. The video linked above to GojiMan on YouTube enhanced these feelings for me even more. He says in the video that it’s great to be vegan for the animals (and I agree), but he ultimately concludes (or something) that all vegans who do it for the animals only eat junk food. That cannot possibly be right? I think talking about veganism in that matter only makes the whole thing about “you’re not vegan enough” crap that’s spreading like wildfire on YouTube, especially, a whole lot worse.

Let’s get one thing straight, though… I know there are so called junk food vegans out there and that is totally fine. I also am well aware about the Plant Based movement as well, but to automatically suggest or claim that vegans can only call themselves vegan if they ONLY do it for the animals is so sickening and it is not helping the vegan movement at all. Of course it is really important to think about the animals when you’re discussing or talking about veganism or vegetarianism. It matters! Their lives matters! But our health matters as well and so does the planet’s health. So it is important to go vegan for all reasons and to relax and accept all vegans for their reasons to go vegan. As long as they eat vegan food, everything should be fine but apparently it is not. Like WTF?! I also think it’s fine (like I’m trying to do) to take your time to get rid and switch the animal products in your home in the time and manners that suit you. Like switching to vegan/cruelty-free make-up products and shampoo and next time you need to buy a new sofa, you do not buy a leather one. Just because you go vegan (for whatever reason)doesn’t mean you have to change everything over night. It can be a process over time. And that’s fine! The most important thing is to start with what you’re eating and eat vegan defined foods.

As another example, I watched this video yesterday or something and I think it’s like pure harassment that people who are vegans (for the animals, of course 😉 ) hate her and say that she can’t call herself vegan because she’s doing it for other reasons than the animals? I mean, WTF?! Ok, in the video she says that she sometimes eat fish, like on Christmas eve or something and a few other days of the year. Otherwise she eats vegan. I’d personally call her a semi-vegan and I understand her reasons for making it easy when she orders stuff in restaurants to say she’s vegan, because she primarily eats like that 99% of the year. At least that’s how I interpreted her. I might be wrong. What is wrong is other vegans hating on her because she does not do it for the animals! It is so crazy. She says herself in the video that nobody cared when she ate meat, but when she’s vegan – but not for the animals, then there is war!

I don’t know… it is all so silly. I wish that things will go back to normal and being vegan – no matter for what reasons is ok, and that it is okay as well to be a junk food vegan or being a healthy WFPB eater. Thinking that the vegan word does not only have to mean it’s all about the animals will do a whole lot more for the vegan movement I think in the long run. Being a vegan ultimately starts with your diet!

What about you?